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    My V-Strom started behaving funny last night.

    I noticed that it pulled to the right when I applied the front brakes - I put it down to there being something on the road.

    This morning it did it again, but this time round the pull was a bit stronger. It did it again for me further down the road. The ride home in the afternoon was very relaxed with the pull becoming consistent pretty much every time I break.

    Bike has behaved fine until yesterday. Bike has not been crashed, hasn't even gone up or down a gutter.

    Things I have checked:
    * tyres - practically new, only about 2k old
    * tyre pressures - normal
    * wheel bearings - feel fine, no play at the axle
    * head stem bearing - feels fine, no play or knocking

    I am suspecting my shocks. Reason for that is: they are soft and I don't know when (if ever) they have been serviced. They are not leaking, but there is a bit of sound when they are compressed - it kind of sounds like there might not be enough of oil in them.

    MY PLAN:
    * First: I will have the shocks serviced
    * Subsequent: I don't know. What are your suggestions or where I should look?
     
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    Yep, could be unequal dive due to less oil => less compression damping in one leg compared to the other. No fork oil on the fork sliders or anything?

    Every few years is a good time to refresh fork oil etc, so I'd be going down that route.
     
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    Or a seized brake piston. That would give a much stronger pull to the side than a suspension imbalance.
     
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    ^^^ that was the first thing I thought of ....
     
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    The sliding pins with single piston brakes can also seize. The pad on the piston side will wear faster too, sometimes causing an imbalance because the metal in the pads can migrate to the steel backing plate. I'm guessing the V-Strom would have at least double piston callipers though.
     
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    I just know dotPeteys bike pulled like a bitch when the forks dove unevenly when he bought it. That was exciting the first time I tried to stop it.
     
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    Seems odd to have an issue under braking, and check everything except the brakes lol.
     
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    Well, look at this way: do bikes with one disc pull to one side when they brake?
     
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    I'm glad you said it, and I didn't have to :p

    Works on the same principle as a lot of bikes having compression damping in one fork tube, and rebound in the other. Doesnt matter, because they're all fixed to each other with the triples/axle, so the whole lot theoretically will act as a single unit.

    I'd even go as far as saying to look at fork alignment first, rather than oil level. Tweaking of the forks within the triples sounds most likely to me from the symptoms, but again that's just a guess.
     
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    Alignment is another good one, depends if it's just started doing it after a small drop or something (or a chain adjustment, one can put in less bar input to steer it to correct chain misalignment.
     
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    Are you saying you wouldnt have a quick gander at the brakes if you've gone to the effort of checking the wheel bearings, headstem bearings, tyre etc?

    I might just be the odd one out and would atleast have a poke around whilst I was there :106.gif:
     
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    Well I probably check them more often than most... but in the case of a big strom, it's still got dodgy sliding calipers. So sure I'd check the slides to make sure they were still fine. I was just saying that the symptoms still, for my eye, fit with one fork diving a bit more than the other.
     
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    May be dumb question, but if its all bolted up and acting as 1 unit, how does one dive more than other? Like bikes with rebound in 1 leg and dampening in the other? (Or whatever it is)
     
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    Usually flex. There's a reason they sell a lot of fork braces for stroms and SVs.
     
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    Wouldnt a flex issue be seperate from an oil issue?
    As in, the flex would have been there from the beginning, and a constant over the bikes life?

    Interested to see what the end result of this is, and the mechanics of how its pulling it
     
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    If it flexes, one side can dive more than the other. That's where I was getting at. Definitely experienced with dotPetey's CB250 - not enough fork oil in one side and it pulled to the opposite side than the side the brake disc was mounted on. New fork seals, even oil level, braked in a straight line.
     
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    although old mate mentioned it pulled when the front brakes are applied - if the rear axle is not tight and the rear brake is applied - this will cause a slight swerve to the right as the wheel moves in the swingarm. As soon as the brake is released and throttle applied - the wheel will pull back under chain tension and the bike will steer straight again.....

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    Also, callipers are mounted off the axis of the forks so you'd expect a twisting moment with brake application with a single or double disc setup and a seized pin.
     
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    The only work that I had done to the bike was mounting a DVR, but this work was done no where near any steering components.

    Pulling to the right only happens when the front brake is applied. Rear brake works as before and stops the bike in a straight line (that's how I got home on Monday).

    I had dismissed the brakes as both rotors work on the same wheel. If it was a two front wheel vehicle, I would have been all over the brakes in the first instance.

    Anyhow, the forks are now off the bike and going to see Brett at Moto Garage tomorrow for a service.

    I'll post an update after they are re-fited.
     
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