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    From reading my owners manual this is a major service, and its where I switches to Synthetic Oil.

    My understanding is that I can now switch over as the engine is "mostly" broken in and the sticky properties of Mineral Oil aren't required as much.

    Disclaimer: I know everyone has their preferences on the following, just looking for options mainly.

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    Oil: Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40
    Tyres: Pirelli Sport Demons
    Brake Lines: HEL Bike Specific (back and front)

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    Oil: Just don't want to hurt the bike. Looking to keep it for a while, even when I get a 600. So happy to spend a little more and change to oil more often if it means I will get a longer life out of her.
    Tyres: Just not happy with the stock tyres. Heard these were good. At around 270 for both I thought it was good. Also not many options with 110/70 and 130/70 requirement. Should I go to 140/70 on the back?
    Brake Lines: Again not happy with the standard, on long trips they "change" in behaviour, hoping these will stop that.

    Also doing a 4000km trip over Xmas (All over VIC). That adds to the reason for the tyres, and brake lines.

    Any comments? BetterCheaper Oils? Tyres?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    My suggestions (that I'm sure will conflict with others) are go for a semi-synthetic oil and change it more frequently (i.e. every 3000km or so).

    Your two tyres will cost less than one rear for The Crim, so go for it....they are a good tyre. Stick with the standard width rear though, you don't need wider and it will turn better with the 130 than the 140.

    As far as the brakes go it might be worth giving them a good bleed with some good quality brake fluid before getting new lines.
     
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    6000 is a minor, check fluids and change oil and filter, 12000 is more extensive, and 24000 is the major ie everything is done
     
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    and if you are doing the brakes anyway - but im with mick, a good bleed would be my first port of call - i wouldn't bother doing the rear brake, because it will actually be worse braided unless you change to a petal-disc... but *needing* braided lines on a 6000k old bike, a ZZR/GPX/Ninja250 at that, is a bit much..

    oh and yeah - 6000k's is a minor like James pointed out...
     
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    I was pretty sure the 2008 ninja 250s came with petal discs, correct me if im wrong
     
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    Front disc is petal, not sure about the rear.

    Nevar your choice in tires will not dissapoint. I can't rate them highly enough, tons of grip, good in the wet and they seem to last a long time. My rear now has 9,000ks on it and still looks to have 60% or more.

    Oh and the bastard things seem to have more lean angle than my bike :laugh: :twisted:

    By the way..show up to Tilleys sometime will ya? I wanna see how that ninja is doin! :D

    Edit: I'm sure you already know, or someone else will warn you, but be careful while you are scrubbing in your new tires. They are slippery as shit, as I found out, but I will leave it to those who know more than me to explain how to scrub them in!
     
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    Thanks all for the hints, tips, and advice.

    Greatly appreciated.

    Last thing, any point in keeping the standard tyres (6000km of use, about 70% tread)? If so any hints on how to store them?
     
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    just do a burnout and get the that itch that burns inside you out of the way. :thumbsup:

    if the 250r is anything like the gpx 6000 is minor, 12000 will be clearances etc etc.

    id recommend you give your brakes a bleed or ask the mechanic to bleed em for you.

    as for scrubbing the tyres in, just get heaps of heat going through them... a good 45 mins ride should do this just fine
     
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    I would suspect its the same... since the EX, GPX, ZZR and Ninja250r all run the same parra-twin engine...

    and its not heat that scrubs a tire.... a 100km's or so of gradually increasing lean angles will be all you need - all your doing is removing the top layer or release agent and breaking the surface of the rubber back so its not silky smooth...
     
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    Oil: Don't get carried away. I'd go for a semi-syth ester oil, or similiar. And I'd leave the changes to maybe as per factory (they did design the bike and they know what it needs, after all). A lot of people get carried away with oil change frequency, and all you're doing is throwing out perfectly good oil. Frequent oil changes are not a get out of goal free card - you can't thrash it and then pretend that changing the oil ever 500km makes up for that. I do the CBR every 6000 (which is TWICE the factory recommendation), and the Ninja is the same which is per factory. Oils ain't oils, but 250's aren't a 1098 either. Calm down on it ;)

    Brakes: if you want more response and feel (ie initial bite), consider the braided lines. Also consider a change of pads? What do you want out of this? is a question that will help you really think about where you're throwing the money

    Scrubbing: Initially, ride like it's pouring rain. As Adr1an said, increase your lean angles a bit until you're a happy camper. They are slippery. Try not to ride in heavy traffic. IF you have to do a hard stop because of someone in front, you're in for a nasty surprise. Leave heaps of space from vehicles around you, and just take it really easy for the first 100km.
     
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