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A guide to the pre-learners course

Discussion in 'Learner League' started by Lachlan.B, Aug 16, 2009.

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    It was just pointed out to me that countersteering didn't seem to be part of the ACT course when I did it in December... Although a couple of mis-speeches from the instructor suggest to me that possibly we did the NSW course instead... I don't know what else is different, or maybe it's just changed again.
     
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    I did what I thought was the ACT course in Jan 11 and we did a counter steering exercise.
     
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    I did what was definitely the ACT Learners course about a year ago and counter steering was part of it.
     
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    I'm going to chalk that one up to instructor error then. On the other hand, if countersteering is the "push on the side that you want to go towards" thing, then that seems to be what my bike wants to do anyway...
     
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    It is what the bike wants to do, there's not much you can do about it at speed. But if you don't understand this and try to turn the bars in the direction you want to travel, you'll go the wrong way.
     
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    Oh, yeah, I meant to finish that thought with "But I'm glad someone mentioned it to me in passing, so I didn't try to _correct_ it." ^_^
     
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    My brain and I have an understanding that we will try not to work out why countersteering actually happens and instead just go with the flow.

    This strategy has been working ok for me so far :)
     
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    Counter steering is so easy to explain with a pushbike. Someone should bring one to coffee!
     
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    and you should let me swing hoops in your ute too. *shrugs* :p

    Happy to bring the mountain bike to coffee sometime to explain. it works so much simpler on it!

    You could think of it this way, To turn your car to the left, you turn the steering wheel to the left (left hand down).
    To turn your car to the right, you turn the steering wheel to the right (right hand down).

    If you want to turn your bike left, you're looking through the left hand corner, then its left hand push.
    If you want to turn your bike right, you're looking through the right and corner, then its right hand push.
     
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    Come along to practise, I make you do it standing like yoga. Somehow it makes more sense when you tie in the head turn, push, weight transfer combo. It becomes quicker than automatic once you practise it a few times.
     
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    We looked like a Tai Chi class last week... but indeed Heidi's point is true... she has a simple and easy way of explaining, demonstrating, then you practise
     
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    You can watch someone demonstrate it in various ways, but the only way it will make sense to you is when it becomes muscle memory. That's why I make you all look like a strange over-dressed tai chi class. The best thing is doing that a few times on foot, then watching you all go out. I can see the SECOND it comes together for you, then the grin is a give away. It works.
     
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    Hi Lachlan,

    Thanks for all that info.

    I am doing my 'stay upright' course 19/20 March and am a tad nervous. First time in 30+ years that I will be actually riding a bike instead of being the pillion. Thought it was about time I got my license.

    BlueEyes1955
     
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    hey whats up, im doing my course on the 29th, anyone from here going that day?

    also, what bikes do they use?
     
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    Hey James.

    I did the course last weekend. You'll get plenty of good info out there.
    They had mostly Honda CB 250s with a few scooters for those that requested them and a dirt bike of some description as well.
    The Hondas are a great little machine. Nice and easy to operate and will help heaps with your confidence if you have little or no previous experience.
     
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    I did the NSW course and they use the Honda CB250 bikes. These are terrific for those that are not vertically challenged (I am). the instructor had to help push/pull the bike any time I had to manuvor it into a different position. It taught me that I need a cruiser rather than a tourer bike for the every day ride...have fun
     
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    Lachlan, I just wanted to say thanks for the comprehensive write up. It helped allay a lot of the fears I had about the pre-learner's course and being on a motorbike. After the first day I was a little frustrated (dropped a bike, and crappy clutch control - mucho stallo), but taking aboard the advice to just relax, the second day was fun. I can't tell you how much of a relief it was to know what I was going to be facing; in fact, searching for the course info is what brought me to CR!
     
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    No worries Al glad to hear it was helpful :)
     
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    Did anyone else on their L's get a letter today about the mandatory pre-provisionals course????
     
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