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Booked for my Ps

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    Booked in for my Ps, so if you see me around at any of the practice locations in the evening after work, give me a nod :up
     
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    Hot tip, practice the course as well as get used to standing around in the heat. Its a long day with the test at the end.
     
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    Where are you practicing, B4dger?
     
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    Sorry, was practicing at EPIC. Am now the proud owner of a set of P plates tho.

    In the end, my bike's clutch died just before the road ride section, so I had to borrow one of their little CB125s. Suffice to say, the road ride was a pain, but the test was a breeze on that thing.

    Only accumulated a couple of points on the emergency braking, due to being unfamiliar with the brakes. I've got braided hoses and sintered pads on my GS, so it stops bloody fast. Unfortunately a CB, with my fat ass on it, stops a lot slower. The U-turn was honestly the easiest thing I've ever done haha, had a few feet spare.
     
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    Good stuff, it really is a national disgrace how easy the test it
     
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    It's a hell of a lot more exhaustive than the car test. I think my car test took about 15 minutes, and there was no practical Ls test. Really, to allow someone behind the wheel of 2 tonnes of cage, that's criminally easy.

    At least on the bike the person I'm most likely to kill is myself.
     
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    Agree, kept it bike related on a bike forum. However we get the ability to buy some of the fastest toys in the world as novice riders, truly amazing
     
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    Meh, I think the way bike licencing is dealt with is mostly sensible (for people just getting their licences now). The ones that terrify me are the old boys who rode a 150 in the 70s, haven't ridden in decades, and then can go and grab a huge cruiser. They don't have to do any competence building, and I'd be interested to see what the represent as a proportion of road fatalities.
     
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    i think its rubbish. Get L's riding in a circle, get P's after 3 months riding at no more that 10km. Then 12months (or 3yrs if your under 25) later get a super bike and write yourself off.

    My understanding is that the fatalities spike in the post P plate period where people move from the LAMS bike to a nuclear bomb on wheels.

    Perfect world would have further training and development before people can move off the P plate. Key being development (Advance rider training etc)

    Getting a licence in this country is as easy as opening a box of cereal and peaking inside.
     
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    But you can't make it prohibitively difficult for people to get licences, otherwise they won't bother. The fact that your L's 'run out', and you're required to return after a year, is absurd. The advanced rider training you're talking about would be very expensive (especially if it includes significant high-speed road riding, which involves a lower student to teacher ratio and higher insurance costs). If you keep adding expensive requirements for people to get their licences, it becomes a rich kid's pass time, rather than a viable mode of transport.

    The structure of the current LAMS and Ps process has already had a significant effect on rider fatalities. The figures listed here suggest a significant improvement could be made by improving rider education for the 40-65 crowd (disclaimer: pretty small sample size, but this was the first result, and I'm technically at work haha).
     
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    Again not really with you. Germany for example charges est 1500 euro plus 25 hours of professional driver training as part of its system. The key to not forget is that its a privilege and not a right to have a licence. The other importance factor is the cost to the health system (funded by tax payed) as a result of driver error which potentially could be avoided with user pays driver training,

    Its in the Governments interest to have more drivers on the roads. More rego, licence fees, Toll fees. speeding tickets, parking tickets etc.
     
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    1500 euro is just prohibitively expensive, but Germany largely has excellent public transport (and cycling) infrastructure, so you can treat riding as a privilege. In Sydney or Melbourne, some form of independent transport has to be treated as a right. There are no good public transport options. So now we have a choice; is it better for people to ride or drive? The answer to that is unquestionably to ride (space requirements, wear and tear on roads, co2 emissions, on and on we go). Making it prohibitively expensive (and difficult) to get a bike licence disincentivises riding as a form of transport.
     
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    Good idea...Lets make licences expensive so we have to subsidise them as well. :35.gif:

    Germany is a poor comparison to Australia.
    Germany have Autobahn with unlimited speed limits. Probably why their license is expensive and about to get much more expensive.
     
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    Hmmm k
     
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    Going for my P's tomorrow. Pretty keen. Going to be doing it on the Boulevard, so should be nice and challenging :)
     
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    Good luck!

    When I did mine there was a dude on his V-Star that dropped it in the middle of the day, then went on to ace the MOST. So it can be done.
     
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    Mate you were nailing it at the practice day we did, you won't have a problem in the world. There was a guy who did it on a cruiser when I was there too, just do your thing .
     
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    Good luck, lots of fluids and food and you will nail it
     
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    Got a result
     
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    Yeah, passed with 0 points incurred. Had a bit of a moment on the exit from my U turn, but held it. Luckily points aren't based on style Haha. The only thing I was really worried about was the swerve at the end, but I got through it.

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