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    Hi all. I've had my rider's license for 10 years now but only rode during the first 4 years. I stopped when I got into an accident and ended up in hospital. My last bike was a Triumph Daytona 675. Anyway to cut the long story short: moved from Sydney to Canberra in 2012, met my partner, moved in, she wanted a scooter, we bought a scooter and now having loads of fun!!!

    The dangerous part is I've now started trawling through motorbike sites, specifically after naked bikes within the 600cc range. I want a Ducati Monster 659 but want it derestricted. Anyone know if you can legally buy one without the restriction plate without voiding warranty? By no means am I set on it. It's definitely just above my budget so I'm still open for suggestions. I'm also not too tall at about 170cm so I prefer a seat height below 800mm. My last bike was almost 830, was ok at first, but dreaded riding it in Sydney peak hour traffic.

    Definitely not in a rush to buy a bike so I'll take my time researching and browsing through forums and websites. Also, partner isn't yet aware that I want a road bike. Yikes!
     
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    Can you not get a Ducati dealer to remove the restriction? I'm assuming it'd cost an arm and leg extra and they'd probably properly report it to rego so it'd lose its LAMS status and resale would be terrible but you might keep your warranty?

    Tried a street triple? Very competent bike, pretty cheap. 820mm seat height but pretty narrow seat so should be relatively easy to reach the ground. Already unrestricted.
     
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    Yeah 820mm still too high for my liking.

    Heard back from Ducati Australia and they said the 659 cannot be derestricted. I'm sure it's possible but would prefer not to do it if it's not supported by the manufacturer. Anyhoo back to the drawing board. The jap nakeds aren't too bad and cheaper too.
     
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    welcome aboard and good luck with your research
     
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    Pretty sure it is more than just a restrictor plate in a 659. They have to sleeve them down because the capacity of the 696 is, funnily enough, larger than the 660cc limit that everywhere but the ACT has for LAMS.

    They also never offered a LAMS version of the last of the first generation style Monsters as the littlest one was the 695, and again, that's more than 660cc & they couldn't be arsed making a < 660cc motor for our LAMS market on a generation of bike that was gonna end shortly anyway.

    You could modify it to get more powwwaaaaaah through tuning but again that'll take away warranty on some parts of the bike.

    620ie lite/lams can be de-restricted but they're an older model. M600s, the oooooldschool first generation one (with the 851 frame; ST frame from 99-2000 onwards got the 620) is actually so lacking in power they are learner legal by default.
     
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    Is looking at something a little larger in capacity an option?

    You could look at the Z750's / Z800's if that's the case.

    Otherwise any naked options from the Japanese manufacturers in the 600cc range aren't inspiring.
    They all have decent handling, good build quality and slightly breathless engines.

    Were the Triumphs still an option or are you done with them?
     
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    Yeah so in that case just grab a 796 Monster or similar; they're the same seat height etc, same weight as the learner legal one, and actually useable powaaaaah.

    Perfectly fine.
     
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    Jap is goood!!
     
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    All good suggestions.

    Popped by Canberra MC today and sat on a few bikes. I like the height of the CB Hondas but waiting for decent used ones to come along. 790mm seat height is probably the max I would go for. The Monster was sexy as usual but tried not to look into it as much as I think I'm not ready to fork out $10k+ for a bike. Now aiming for $4k-7k.

    Also checked out Joe's but no interesting bikes there.

    What are people's thoughts on buying NSW registered bikes? Easy to register in the ACT?
     
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    Buying from NSW is no problem, as long as the bike is stock or you have the original parts (exhaust, etc) to put on for the rego inspection.

    What about something like this?
    http://allclassifieds.com.au/motorc...-fighter/ad4241b7200a0037401bb239ccede51000c8
     
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    If it's a NSW registered bike from a dealer then it's not quite as bad :). Just private sales where you need the ID check done at Dickson where you wanna make sure it won't be too painful to get it registered here.
     
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    696 ?
    The 600M is a 583cc and are just LAMS they slip under by 1kw. Plenty of torque for a 600 but run out of puff somewhere around 4500 rpm at guess, there's is no taco on mine.
     
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    696 is the smallest of the new monsters with the cast subframe etc, but from memory they were killed off earlier than the 796 which ended up being the last of the aircooled Monsters (and basically became the motor for the Scrambler). Easier to find a 796 new stock than a 696.

    The last of the 'first' generation (in reality; 'second' - the frame changes between your 600/750/900, and the later ones. Fuel injection is generally about the cutoff but some were carbied)

    I quite enjoyed the 696 I had in 2008 as a demo, though the mount between subframe and frame dug right into my knee when I was up and riding it hard.

    Am aware of the 600's shortcomings. More was the point that the only Monster that's ever been LAMS that you could ever remove the restriction on was the 620 lite/lams. Everything else is a case of engine mods.
     
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    Hrrm, $4 to $7k? I know of a very good SV650s that would be excellent for someone getting back into riding :). ACT rego and all.
     
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    I found this bike. The owner also lives literally 2 mins from my place.

    http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/gungahlin/motorcycles/suzuki-gsr-600-2006/1086690321

    Things to consider:
    • Front wheel is not aligned and judders in certain scenarios
    • Rego until October 2015
    • Needs to be serviced soon (or do oil change myself)
    Essentially need to fork out another $1k+ for rego, comprehensive, and wheel alignment.

    What do you think?

    I'm also thinking about a brand new Benelli BN302. Whilst not as powerful, brand new is within my budget. Not a speed demon, but I reckon it will get me around Canberra comfortably.
     
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    Hmmm pretty hard to have a wheel not alinged on a bike, normally just that the forks are twisted in the triple clamps which is essentially free to fix. Although that normally happens if a bikes been dropped or crashed

    Is the judder under brakes? Could be stuck brake disc carrier or headstem bearings
     
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    Man, oddlily's SV650s with all the fruit would be a better buy than the GSR if the front wheel isn't aligned - usually that indicates it's had a crash etc etc.
     
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    The SV650 seems good value but tbh not the biggest fan of the looks.
     
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    Under brakes, yes, but yeah not considering it at the moment. The guy's only had it since April and don't know much about its history. Too risky IMO.
     
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    Depending on how thick the axle is, you can actually bend them before you do anything else. That can also then work fine in a straight line if you line everything back up, but it judders under brakes cause the discs aren't working perfectly parallel and they run out of movement on the buttons.

    I know, cause I had a bike that did that :).
     
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