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    doing the routine oil and filter change on the 06 Bandit.

    Problem is that the filter seems to have tightened itself so much that I can't move it.

    I'm using the k&n filter with the nut on the end, but that is rapidly stripping... want to save the remainder of the nut for when I do loosen it. The filter removal tool won't go on tight enough to get enough grip to turn it.

    So, aside from hammering a screwdriver through it, do I have any other options?

    Thanks.
     
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    Fabric belt around it in such a way that when you pull on the end of the belt to undo the filter, it tightens the belt. That might work. otherwise, yep, it's screwy-screwy time unless you own a big-arsed pair of multigrips (and even then they can be hard to get into motorbike filter locations).
     
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    Done the screw driver trick a few times. Works well just make sure you get a really big one so it doesn't just cut the top of the filter off.

    Did you put it on. Even with the nut K&N filters you should only ever put them on hand tight.
     
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    I may have a tool to undo the oil filters at home. It pretty much looks like a massive pair of multigrips.
    I'd have to see when get home this arvo.
    Picked it up from Supercheap
     
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    Binksy is right, once you tighten it by hand, the heat will also suck it in.
    We often assume more tightening will prevent leaks, its a bummer when you cant get it off.
     
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    I've got one of these [​IMG]

    I'm in Flynn if you want to borrow it for a couple of hours
     
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    Smash a screwdriver through it. Works every time. But yeah use a big one.
     
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    I've had good success with one of these types of filter removers.

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    Clamp down hard enough to dent the filter a little and you should have no trouble getting it undone.
     
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    Been using this with ease for my oil changes. They're pretty universal :) on/off too!
     
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    Got a few tricks for getting them off, depending on how bad they are. Screw driver in the side, pry bars, strap wrenches, strap wrenches after gluing a strip of 80 grit to the body of the housing.
    In the end, the filter is going in the bin correct waste recycling point., so don't feel bad about completely fucking it. Just don't damage any of the stuff around it.
     
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    When people say use a screwdriver, they mean you should hit the part where the body is joined to the part that screws on, the solid rolled edge. Just driving it through doesn't always work and just makes a big mess.
     
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    Thanks...

    I have successfully used the screwdriver "method" in the past... messy but gets the job done...

    @Binksy yeah I put on myself, been on for almost a year though.... so t's had time to tighten and tighten and tighten.... guess I should be riding more....

    @ninjananna thanks... not really that close, but thanks for the offer.
     
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    They generally don't tighten and tighten in the classic fashion, but in some cases the sealing rubber o-ring can dry up causing a bunch more friction. I've only not been able to remove one filter I fitted, but it was a right bastard for that very reason.
     
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    I do this but it could be urban myth. Before fitting, wipe the o ring with old oil not new oil. New oil makes the o ring stick.
     
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    Old is what I always do, there's usually a plentiful supply in the drain pan.

    It's really odd when they do stick, I'd love to understand what exactly does it.
     
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    well when you find out, please share cos it is a huge pain in the arse :)
     
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    I'm sure there will be some mathematical formulae for it.
     
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    Nah this sort of thing will be controlled by astrology.
     
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    Zen and the art of Motorcycle.......Oil Filter Removal?
     
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