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    Maybe a month or so ago, I scraped my first peg on Vera turning right at the Giniderra Drive roundabout. Not much I know but still a big thing for me. Well today I proved that the first time was not a fluke and did it again on another right hander!

    Even better was the fact that it occured coming down Mt Mac just before the very last corner (the left handed hairpin) before you get to the no stopping zone in sight of the dam itself.

    What makes me really chuffed about this is the fact that Vera's dog bones were raised 10mm at her last service. Sure she is still lower then a normal Vstrom but I am super stoked about it :)
     
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    So after 14600km, the rear tyre on Vera is due to be replaced. The Conti Trail Attack didn't last as long as the Michelin Anakee 2 (about 4300km short) and I attribute this to the more liberal use of the throttle then in the past.

    I have a relatively new Conti Trail Attack on the front (done about 4000km) but want to put something a bit more road orientated on the rear (still dont know exactly what yet). Is it an issue to run a road tyre on the rear and a dual sport tyre on the front? Also, does the CR Hive Mind have a good recommendation for the rear? It has to handle touring, general commuting and playing around in the twisties.
     
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    Pretty happy with Pilot Roads. Got 20000 out of last rear.
     
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    It might be a bit interesting with a dual sport on the front and something sporty on the rear. Generally I am ok with more grip on the front than the back but not the other way around, folding the front isn't very funny. I would probably get a matched set of Road 3s and keep the front wrapped in some plastic in the garage.
     
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    I recently got a road end of universal for the back of the Elefant and it seems a good match on sealed roads for the Anakee what ever I have on the front with the advantage that it's much more controllable in the gravel.
    So either this or as Supa suggests a pair of roads.
    Id probably look for a cheaper road end universal on the basis it will wear out in 4-5 k kms.
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    Little bit of an update on Vera. She has been going great guns since I put the Pilot Road Threes on her. LWH rides, track days and a ton of commuting. I have been really happy with her. Last Tuesday however, she decided to break down on me. Coming out of Mitchell and turning onto Gundaroo Drive, she stalled at the slip road entrance and I could not get her started. Eventually I was able to get her into neutral and push her onto the sidewalk.

    After a visual check of all the obvious parts, I could see nothing wrong so I called MotoGarage and Brett nicely came round and picked me up. Initial tests in the workshop showed that the battery was fine as was the starter relay. Further tests also revealed that the starter motor was ok too.

    Speaking to Luke today and the consensus is that there is something wrong in the rear cylinder. This is causing the motor to "lock up". It could be a broken timing chain, or something amiss with the piston or valve. Next step is to take the rocker cover off and have a look to see what can be seen.

    I am hoping that she will be back on the road soon cause commuting to work in a car is a major PITA!
     
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    Monkspeed dear vera
     
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    Vera is still in the shop but it is now 100% certain that I broke the cam timing chain. Now it is a case of looking to see how much damage has been done and whether we had a situation where piston and valve had a nice little get-together. Brett is working on a quote for the expected costs of repairing this at present.

    Worst case scenario sees Vera being retired to greener pastures and plans of a donor engine and a sidecar rebuild. Best case scenario is (cue $6M Man theme music) is that we can rebuild her. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic Vstrom. Vera will be that bike. Better than she was before. Better...stronger...faster!

    PS I just hope the bill is not actually $6M to do this!
     
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    Looking at tyres for the Jekstrom at the moment. The Pilot Road 3s are one option, but thinking of the Pirelli Scorpion Trail. Have been happy with the Anakees I've got on now in terms of kms but curious to try something different.

    Good luck with Vera
     
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    I think the motor iis the same but it is detuned to allow for more torque lower in the RPMs (and probably a lot of other modifications as well). So even if it fitted in fine, I dont think that the engineers at Suzuki had ever considered that the SV power plant was suited for a Vstrom. Otherwise they would have not worried about resdesinging the engine and just kept it the same for both bikes.
     
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    I don't understand how it took so long to tell the cam chain was broken. But anyway.

    Had this happen on one of my bikes... Top end at a minimum.

    Surely these engines aren't that hard to come by?
     
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    The Continental Trail Attacks were really nice but I didnt feel as trusting of them in the wet. Whatever Michelin puts in their rubber compound makes for a tyre that warms up super quick and seems really dependable for wet weather riding regardles of which flavour of tires I use. If I was going back to dual sport tyres I would probably stick the latest generation of Anakees on them instead.
     
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    A month to diagnose a busted cam chain? Me thinks you need to take it to a different mechanic, one that cares about fixing your bike. If he took that long to diagnose I can't imagine how long it might take to actually fix it... :112.gif:
     
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    I have been more than happy with the service I have received at Motogarage to date :)

    Delays were likely to be caused by the fact that Vera was dropped off there without an appointment and without consideration for what the workshop actually had planned.
     
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    Funny thing about math. Sometimes something that is 100% is not actually even close to that. In other words, the cam chain never broke at all! Turns out that the engine failure started with the clutch plate destroying itself (that's the second time I have killed the clutch in Vera now!) and a bit of the clutch band got lodged in the cam chain and stopped it from turning. This in turn caused the engine to seize and the piston and valve to touch in an inappropriate manner.

    This will add a little bit to the repair bill but it is still cheaper then getting a donor bike with an unknown history and swapping over engines. That is unless anyone has a brand new Vstrom engine that they want to get rid of cheap!

    Lucky for me that Vera is not the only female in my life and I have other things to take my mind off how much I am missing my bike.
     
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    Sounds kinky!

    But seriously, hope she's back on the road soon, maybe with a pillion? :)
     
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    Wòooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! You dawg! Hoping the other female is not just a euphemism for a second bike :)

    Hope things go well with vera mate, sounds like mixed news but a little better than previously thought ;-)
     
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    I realise you're only giving a shorthand version of the cause but the cam timing must have slipped for the contact of valve and piston to occur.
     
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    So basically the same outcome as a broken cam chain with a stuffed clutch thrown in.

    Glad it only took 2 months to diagnose.

    You should work on your clutch control;)

    Hope it's sorted soon.