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    anyone using a VPN that they can recommend with all the ticks - ie not to slow, total anonymity, and keeps those Federal nasties away from my downloading habits? I have seen quiet a few but would like some feedback from actual users.
     
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    My boss told me he currently uses hidemyass.

    I looked into it and it seems good. I too am looking for opinions.
     
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    using a VPN isn't necessarily an issue...
    but from my understanding... depending on what you use the VPN for still isn't always legal though?

    http://www.techly.com.au/2014/01/30/using-vpn-access-blocked-content-illegal/

    So hypothetically, and I'm not suggesting that you or anyone is / does / or will in the future...
    there has always been interest in VPN's and with the recent court developments in Aust this has the media writing again... and has many people concerned. Getting a VPN though isn't necessarily a legal solution to continue some of the activities that the recent court decision has ruled on.
     
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    there are always a few grey areas once you start to play on the web - what I choose to use a VPN for is for my requirements - however I am not planning on going this deep

    http://www.deepdotweb.com/jolly-rogers-security-guide-for-beginners/

    Its not always simple either choosing the right VPN - see below - hence seeing what others experience is.

    There is a well known VPN provider named HideMyAss that previously claimed not to keep logs of its users. Unfortunately, when met with a court order from their government in the UK, they handed over evidence of a suspected hacker from an internet group LulzSec which helped lead to his arrest. The story can be found below.


    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/26/hidemyass_lulzsec_controversy/



     
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    How is the speed on PIA? I've been using a more expensive VPN, Cyberghost, that allows selection of the exit node. My housemates and I all use it.

    It has an easy interface and great speed. Their customer service has responded quickly and were helpful when I had to contact them which was nice.
     
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    No complaints about the speed at all, I'm on TPG ADSL 2+ and the fastest speed I'd gotten before using PIA was 1.7mb/s - after setting up the proxy I've had torrents coming down at 1.65mb/s .

    Browsing speed is slightly slower depending on where I set my location to, ie I chose Melbourne and the speed wasn't affected noticeably - but when I chose Germany the speed dropped and pages took 2-3 seconds more to load.
     
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    Reading this thread with interest, I don't know a lot about VPNs but it seems like an ideal time to learn.
     
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    Are you expecting a letter in the mail? I think you should be fined $7000 for downloading Dallas Buyers Club in the first place ;)
     
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    I use pia, I get 8ms ping and 80mbps down/35mbps up using their sydney node, so about normal speeds. You have about 50 nodes all over the world to choose from. Very easy to use and reasonably priced. They also have a very strong anonymous and no logs kept ethic, if that is of interest to people.
     
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    Just reread the initial post and thought I would add some more info re: VPNs- anonymity, feds seeing what you're downloading.

    First up your connection always goes first via your isp proxy - what a vpn does is encrypt your your comms to the vpn provider - all your isp can see is encrypted traffic going to one site - the vpn. so very little meaningful 'metadata' logged at the isp servers. BUT if the spooks were sus of you, then they can always bust in and decrypt your traffic, or put the hard word on the vpn provider to cough up details. the latter is unlikely (with countries like the netherlands i guess) but possible all the same. unless they dont have to keep logs in the country the vpn is hosting in

    The following is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network


    VPNs cannot make online connections completely anonymous, but they can usually increase privacy and security.[7] To prevent disclosure of private information, VPNs typically allow only authenticated remote access and make use of encryption techniques. VPNs provide security by the use of tunneling protocols and often through procedures such as encryption. The VPN security model provides:

    • Confidentiality such that even if the network traffic is sniffed at the packet level (see network sniffer and Deep packet inspection), an attacker would only see encrypted data
    • Sender authentication to prevent unauthorized users from accessing the VPN
    • Message integrity to detect any instances of tampering with transmitted messages

    And below is taken from http://lifehacker.com/how-do-i-know-if-my-vpn-is-trustworthy-508866499


    If security is all you're concerned with, and you have a VPN provided to you by your school or company, you're already set. In fact, almost any VPN will cover you from the security angle, because you're only really concerned about protecting your activity from prying eyes, presumably on the same network that you're on—like a hotel, coffee shop, or airport's free Wi-Fi. Of course, you still need to make sure that your VPN provider isn't just sniffing your traffic themselves and making themselves the security issue, but we'll get to that in a moment.


    If privacy is your concern, you have more to consider. Privacy-minded VPN users have to trust that their provider isn't watching what they're doing or willing to roll over and hand off their activity, logs, and personal data to whoever comes calling with a fancy-looking letter written in legalese. They also have to worry about what information the VPN provider themselves are keeping, and whether that information can be turned against them, sold to third parties, used for marketing, or just kept forever just in case someone comes calling. In either case, all it takes to either allay your fears or warn you off of a VPN provider is a little research.

    Don't fall for the geography trap. Some people swear only by VPN providers outside their country for privacy. They're convinced that their local laws are privacy unfriendly, or that a provider in their country can be manipulated by other companies, legal wrangling, or law enforcement, and they'll just roll over and hand off whatever private data they have on their users. Trust us: geography won't save you. Living under the assumption that because a VPN provider is in another country it's immune to your local laws or will defend you when pressured is a false sense of security.
    Both law enforcement and private industry groups can exert authority and pressure anywhere in the world they choose, and in most cases they'll get the results they want if they push hard enough. Otherwise, they'll just pressure the government in that jurisdiction to act on their behalf. Put simply: Don't assume that because you live in the US and you use a VPN provider in The Netherlands that you're immune from the law, or that a VPN provider in your own country wouldn't fight harder for your privacy than one overseas. In some cases this is true, but logging, privacy policies, and the general philosophy of the company are generally more important than physical location.


    Keep this in mind - You can't run, can't hide, you just elude by obfuscation :)
     
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    I use Private Internet Access and have for a bit over 3 years. Speed is good, can tunnel out of about 10 -15 different locations and price is fair. We have never had an issue with them.

    Torrentfreak do regular reviews on the privacy side of various VPNs.
     
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    "The email, from Sony Pictures' president of distribution Keith Le Goy, describes a 2013 meeting in which he told Netflix their stance was damaging his company...This is in effect another form of piracy, one semi-sanctioned by Netflix, since they are getting paid by subscribers in territories where Netflix does not have the rights to sell our content."

    Pfft. Cry me a river, Sony. You whinge when people download your products illegally. Then you refuse to make the content available in this country and whinge when people find a way to pay for it anyway? That's the attitude that lead to so much online piracy in the first place.
     
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    well set up PIA - found it a bit finicky - but now all seems to be working fine - DL speeds are about half as fast but MY IP is definitely not of this world :)
     
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