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    I recently purchased a VW Golf R (2012 MK6) DSG from melbourne. I purchased the car without test driving it(foolish), and after picking up the car there is an issue with the gearbox which the dealership is saying that there is no issue and that's how they are suppose to perform.

    The car surges and its as if the clutch engages instantly and is very jerky making me feel nauseous when driving it.

    I also have a GTI which is super smooth and they even say that it should be similar, but its so far from it, that im considering selling the new golf R and keeping my old one.

    Im happy to keep pestering the dealership, but without driving any other golf R's i have to take their word that its normal.

    Does anyone here own a Golf R that I could bounce ideas off ?
     
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    DSG.


    Looks like your out of luck son.

    VW have had endless issues with DSG. Jump on google and hope to god you still have warranty and a good lawyer.
     
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    Everything that needs to be said, has been said already. I do know they're a bit surgey/jerky at slow speed when in manual mode, does it do it when in auto mode?

    Did you buy privately? If so, you're already on the back foot unfortunately.
     
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    Yep unfortunately its an extremely well known issues, and you're pretty much out of luck.

    Apparently other markets have recognised it as an issue but not here.
     
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    I remember reading somewhere something about the drive train warranty being extended to 5 years because of the ridiculous amount of problems that owners were having but they may have been overseas. My advice - get it fixed under warranty and sell it. If you can't get it fixed then insure it and crash it into the dealership.

    VW Golf - it's a great car that just happens to be a shit one.
     
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    It's a real shame, 'cause they're a damn nice car to drive, and the DSG is a lot of fun when it works.
    I'd be chasing it up through Volkswagon Aust, and explain to them you're not happy with the local dealer's service.

    Worked a charm for me with Honda and my '04 CBRThou, when the dealer was convinced there was nothing wrong with the bike. Honda MPE went to great lengths, including free parts arriving in Canberra from Syd only 3 hours after making the call...
     
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    "clutch engages instantly" the Audi / VW DSG changes gear in .8 of a second. That's very instant. They can be jerky during low speeds and part throttle.Try putting it in sport mode to stop the gears wanting to shift early.
    Totally different gearbox but my Commodore has an economy mode and it's bullshit. There is no economy at all it just shifts earlier and labors the engine so you have to put your foot down more.

    Ask the dealer if the car has been recalled to have the electronics fixed and the synthetic oil changed to mineral oil. VW said the synthetic oil disintegrated the electronics. I don't think the 2012 models are affected by the recall. Although it took VW Australia 2 years to admit there even was a problem with the earlier DSG gearboxes.
     
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    I have factory warranty on it until 2016, but yeah if i have a dud then its not going to do me much good. And yeah i purchased it privately.

    I already own a 2011 Golf GTI and wanted to upgrade for the 4wd, so i drive it exactly the same as the GTI which is super smooth. When i mean "the clutch engages instantly", on the GTI when i apply a little bit of throttle its like its a smooth transition through the friction zone, but the golf R is like absolutely dropping the clutch.

    Most of the surging isn't when changing gears, its when i take my foot off the accelerator and then i lightly put it back on as if i was just trying to maintain my speed. After today's check where they "did nothing" it was seemed smoother at low RPM, but once the revs get up into the turbo range (i.e. testing using the manual settings) its very jerky

    Im hoping to try out someone else's car to see if its exactly the same. If it is, then the dealership here were right and its just a harder not as smooth ride than the GTI, but i will need to compare before i can take it back to the dealer here.
     
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    Why don't you go down to lennock tomorrow and take one for a test drive?
     
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    Yeah they only had new ones there today and a couple of private ones which they wouldnt let me drive, lol
     
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    The reason these have such impressive 0 to 100 times is purely the DSG.

    Even under warranty you will have extreme trouble getting VW to come to the party.

    They have been on the denial route.
     
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    If you haven't already, jump on VW Watercooled and ask there. Maybe even take it to an independent mechanic like Canberra VW Centre or that german auto place in Mitchell and get them to do a check for some money
     
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    Yeah i was thinking of trying the VW centre. And yeah i will take a look over at the watercooled forums also, Cheers.
     
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    Parasitic power loss ... dsg tries to arrest this, euro3 emissions standards (or whatever number it is nowadays) demands it... when yur foot's not on the juice the car is trying to do everything possible to minimise emissions, dumping gearbox load is one positive way. So it may be running a little crap but it is also partly the design. Bumming around Europe over xmas I noticed most new diesels actually cut ignition at traffic lights, or when stationary for a few seconds over there .... dsg is just the beginning....
     
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    What happens if you stall it up slightly?

    Work cars a DSG Caddy, seems smooth to me, dunno if R32's have super performance DSG's in them or something? Can you put button clutches in a DSG? NFI how they work. But yeah, stalling up the work Caddy and it just takes off.
     
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    I'm sorry for being an ignoramus, but what does 'stall it up slightly' mean? Dont you either stall or not stall a vehicle?
     
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    It's a torque converter term. The earlier DSG boxes were wet clutches like a motorbike so nein, no button clutches for them (and the old man's 6 speed one in his GTI has been super reliable for him, 150,000 km later). Stall is where you have the engine spinning but the output side stalled. Not sure that all of them will do that... the old man's one won't let you overlap brake and throttle, to 'stall' it like you would with an older auto you actually have to use the handbrake.
     
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    I think very basically it's building up the rpm higher by holding the brake in and letting it rev up more before releasing the brakes.

    It's used a lot in drag cars and the like as instead of taking off at 1500rpm where you might have like 70hp you're launching at 6000rpm where you've got 700hp (or whatever the hell they run). So it's more referring to stalling the takeoff rather than the actual engine itself.

    Could be wrong though but I think that's it basically

    Edit: Beaten by Supa again and explained much better by him haha :p
     
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    So like reving it with the clutch in (if it was a manual) but on the brake instead of clutch?
     
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    ^Ok Thanks guys.
     
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