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    Sorry to know that Joes motorcycle will no longer sell new Yamahas any more - they got some disputes with Yamaha Australia and decide not to work with it in the future...

    Anyway, I traded in my previous mt-07 and got this brand new mt-09 from them yesterday... probably the last mt-09 joe sells...

    The mt09 bike itself has plenty of power: well, to me, as I just got my full license lately and this is the first full-power bike I have ever ride on.

    As a lot of review journalists have pointed out, the bike's got a jerky throttle response, especially in A or STD ride mode. I haven't tried A yet, but in the STD mode it is okay for me. Probably because I was on a MT-07, and that one hadn't exactly got a perfect throttle response, either. Both bikes are abrupt when spinning the throttle from closed - yet the 07's lesser/LAMS power did mellow this down and made it much less troubling than on the 09.

    The suspensions are also on the soft side, and I am only 80kg.

    As far as I'm concerned, I shall probably get some work done by Suspension Smith. With the throttle response, I think the jerkiness is fine with me at this stage, and I shall see if I ultimately need an ECU remapping or power commander...

    FYI, I heard sayings that MY2015 of mt09 has a remapped ECU different from MY2014, and the new settings have cured the throttle response significantly. Not sure if that is the reason why I am not bothered by the allegedly jerkiness from the throttle...

    Anyway, I welcome any fellow members here to offer me some advice on the sorting out of the suspension, and share some more information of how to improve this clearly not perfect bike...
     
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    Firstly, welcome. Secondly, you're bang on the money for suspension work with Laurie.
    Didn't know about Joes/Yamaha tho....
    EDIT; seems Yamaha have dropped Joes off their 'dealer list' on their website
     
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    Is this the one with the blue forks? If so, siiiiick.

    Id like to get a ride on an MT09 one day, Im a big fan.
     
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    reports of a jerky throttle on fuel injected Yamaha's have been around for a while, my TDM900 can be that way at low speed as well, I find that it just makes me try harder to be smooth with the throttle and clutch, with a bit of concentration you can eliminate most, with the added advantage of better mileage when your being smooth.
     
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    Hi!

    No, mine's got a silver fork. The bike itself is matt grey.

    Either way, I think it looks cool, and of course, blue forks might actually look better!~
     
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    Thank you for your reply!

    I am sorry but I'm not exactly a native english speaker, so may I ask, when you said "bang on the money", you mean that I can get good value from suspension work with Laurie at Suspension Smith, right?
     
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    Yes thats what he means
     
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    I have been trying to be very careful with the throttle, and I think in most cases I should be fine. Won't hurt if it only makes me a more cautious rider. :02.47-tranquillity.png:
     
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    Cheers, mate!
     
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    I had quite jerky throttle on my M109R. A power commander and a proper map by Brett at Motogarage fixed that up quite a bit (still not perfect, but much improved)
     
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    Thanks. Your comment on the 09 is exactly why I was after it in the first place. Of course, the tempting price tag is an essential factor, too:10.gif:
     
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    According to Joe, there might be time period that every Yamaha fans here in Canberra would have to go to Goulburn or Sydney to get an R1, an R6, an MT-09, or any other wonderful bikes from Yamaha...

    A big question mark on whether Yamaha will work with Canberra motorcycle centre. I heard that Honda and Yamaha got beef and they shall never agree to be sold under the same roof.
     
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    Good on you, buddy. I might actually consider getting a power commander. Yet I still need to confirm how bad the situation is here with my bike.
     
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    Simply learning to live with it is significantly cheaper :)
     
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    Haha, apparently so...

    But the suspension work is probably still due to be done: I have heard owners with less than 60kg weight to complain on the softness of mt-09's suspension.

    Frankly, Yamaha could have just fitted the 09 with 07's forks and will still work better than the current ones. :45.gif:
     
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    For the same money you could buy a Flash-Tune interface and directly control the throttle-by-wire. Plus you can tweak and make changes to fueling, ignition timing, etc, etc, as often as you like.
     
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    You can tweak a PC to your hearts content, just sometimes it makes sense to pay someone to make tweaks that are the right tweaks to make.

    ... after all, lots of people with adjustable suspension pay someone to twiddle the knobs that they themselves could do with zero computational effort at all ;).

    Now, a PC5 etc doesn't give the same amount of stuff you can twiddle with compared to a flash tune, but there are also competent tuners around, both here in Canberra and in Sydney, who can do flash tune & tweak it so it is excellent.

    FWIW the ride by wire snatchiness seems to be noticed by some and not by others, so it is at least partly riding related; some people clearly operate it how the original mapping was done, and some people don't.
     
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