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a peace pipe, i think not?

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    the pipe finally got here & gos & i installed it this arvo, thanks mate,it no longer sounds like a sewing machine & looks fuggin bitchin.
     

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    thats quite possibly the best noise I have heard from a new Z1000 !!! bloody awesome.

    Can't wait to hear it wailing through the hills............ :twisted:

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    me too , might have to have another hcc cotter loop soon. :mrgreen:
     
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    Looks the goods Mick! Can't wait to hear it :D
     
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    Definitely looks the goods mate...so how many coins in the swear jar getting all those little springs on :rant: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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    It's a Kawasaki, was there any doubt it would sound hot?
    Hell, even their tourers sound hawn!

    Regards, Andrew.
     
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    let me guess mick you were picking it up at cmc at around about 12 yesterday?
     
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    Nice work Mick, 4 into 1 is always going to make a disturbance :twisted:
     
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    surprisingly not many.......even without a spring-puller, we got all bar one on, in double-quick time !!

    When you are my #1 Pit Biatch, you will learn many things grasshopper !!!

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    na ,just the gaskets, which were wrong anyway :shock: , got the pipe from redracing parts in italy through e bay, wakes up the neighbours nicely too they really love me now :lol: ,a coupla more pics for added stimmo s :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
     

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    Yes Master [insert bowdown smilie here]
     
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    Looks awesome PC. Cant wait to get a sample of the noise it makes :mrgreen:
     
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    I dunno why they use those springs? Old bikes with four into ones and slip joints never needed them. The front pipes can't go anywhere, the rear pipe is bolted to teh frame via the muffler...........
    I've certainly never heard of a muffler falling off an old bike with fou into ones?

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    Let me explain the difference...........

    Old bikes with 4 into 1 pipes nearly always have header pipes which actually bolt straight into the head. These don't. There are 4 individual collars that bolt into the head. Each indivudual header pipe then slips into its corresponding collar. Without the spring, there is nothing actually holding the header pipe in to the collar.

    Then, there are the first 2 individual 2into1 Y-junctions under the sump. These don't bolt into anything either, its only the spring tension that holds each Y-junction onto the header pipes.

    There is a 3rd 2into1 Y-junction behind the first 2. This doesn't bolt into anything either. Its only the spring tension which holds this Y-junction collector onto the pipes in front of it.

    The muffler is a slip-in fit to the back of the last Y-junction. It does actually have a bracket which bolts onto the frame. It also has 1 spring for insurance. There is only 1 individual part of the system that bolts to the frame, and that is this last bit, the muffler. No other part of the actual pipe-work is bolted to anything at all.......

    This is a full-tilt 4-2-1 race system, and consists of 12 individual pieces. That is why it needs all those springs.

    It is nothing like an old 2-piece 4into1, where the front of the system (headers and collector) bolt directly onto the head, and the rear section (muffler pipe and muffler), bolt onto a frame bracket. Often, there would be a large hose-clamp around the join between collector and the muffler pipe. Thats why these systems don't fall off (usually ;) ) - One is an old system that has been around since the first Honda 4, and the other is a current race system - the 2 have very little in common at all.

    So now you know whey all those springs are needed......

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    good explanation gos,i seem to remember tailpipes falling off 4-1 pipes before ;) ,& i personally like the look of the springs :mrgreen:
     
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    I liked the original pipes, but I must admit that does look like it could cause some trouble come rego time :p.

    I hope to be sporting a new pipe sometime in the near future...for pretty cheap too (hopefully!).
     
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    No trouble - rego has already been sorted out, so now its just a matter of paying each year. If you let your rego expire for over 12 months, its only then an inspection would be needed. Over 2 years, its new plates and a complete 're-establishment' of rego, including all the extra admin costs..... :|

    Have you any idea of the type of pipe you want ? Happy to help fit it if you need, check e-bay first for supply straight from the manufacturer (its way cheaper).

    :cool:
     
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    Ahh thats right, Canberra and it's wacky rego rules :p.

    A guy on a F4i forum has started designing/making his own and is getting some good feedback from other forum members who have bought one off him. Looking to get the black anodised aluminium one, but with the tip from the second photo:

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    They are pretty cheap (compared to your more established manufacturers) and hopefully shipping won't be too bad.
     
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    they look like pretty good quality. Is it just the can or a full system ?

    How good are those chicken strips in the first photo !! :shock: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Is that Colonel Sanders on the phone ??

    The rego laws here are fantastic - if you own more than 1 bike. The concessional rego scheme is a ripper as well.

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    Just the can.

    Those are what my chicken strips look like at the moment :(, still getting used to the girl...and my right handers are blowing chunks at the moment.

    So tempting to keep the VTR...not going to happen though :(.
     
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