So here's the thing: this can be passionate but chris2000, your point isn't a great one IN THIS CONTEXT. While we can argue about the MOST and its validity till the cows come home, the point is it is part of getting your Ps. Slow speed manouvering taking up the slack in the chain and the rest of the driveline through gentle rear brake use, constant throttle and some clutch modulation IS the way to do it, not even as recommended by stayupright. I agree about countersteering, it should be taught. However, EVEYRONE has to do it NO MATTER HOW FAST THEY RIDE. You just don't realise it at slow speeds because what dominates is the effect of the bars turning in the direction of the turn once the turn is initiated. As for sitting in neutral at the lights? Yeah, great way to get rear ended. Better off being in gear and being ready. That is not at all what the OP is talking about, either, they are simply talking about the skills required for passing the MOST.