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    Just thought I'd put this question out 'there'...when it comes to advertised seat heights from a manufacturer's web-site, is the seat height measured when the bike is on the stand/side-stand, or, is it measured when the bike is upright and side-stand etc retracted?
     
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    It would be when it is upright without any weight on it.
     
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    Keep in mind that the width of the seat will affect your leg reach to the ground.

    You really need to sit on the actual bike rather than do a paper comparison.

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    Thanks jimmc. I couldn't work out how it was derived. I tried measuring my bike (Ninja 300) on its stand and figures it could be measures from the seats lowest point, or, perhaps the highest point.

    dmac666 - so true too! Although this exercise was to assist in perhaps sorting out an upgrade bike for the missus and I...she's only 5'1" tall/short...so lowering links will always come into play, but we also have to take into account the initial factory seat height first.

    Thanks again
     
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    Interesting web-link, vid! Thanks for that.
     
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    Hi SGC,

    My de facto is actually 5'1'' as well. She ended up settling on a Honda Grom, which is perfect for her size even just in stock. You should probably check it out.

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    Thanks Kevin. I can't see the missus on a Honda Grom - she currently rides a 2014 Ninja 300 with a set of lowering links. We were looking to upsize to something mid-range in engine capacity...but for the moment, we've had to put those plans on-hold for the moment as more pressing things are more important.
     
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    If your after a larger capacity with a low seat height and Lams approval (you two are still restricted right?)

    There isn't much In the sport bike class with out adding a heap of weight & cost; there is the CBR500R same stock seat height (+10% weight 30% power 70% torque) but I digress

    Have you looked at middle weight cruisers?
    Much lower seat hight, more relaxed engines & seating positions, they are typically heavier but the centre of mass is also lower making it more manageable.

    BTW the market values for a (Honda) 400cc & 750cc are about the same in NSW due to their Lams capacity restrictions (both are ACT Lams)
     
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    +1 to Miggzie's call on the cbr500r - they have a slightly more upright riding position than the ninjas too which means it will be slightly easier for your missus to reach the ground while in ready position.

    Also, CMCC is introducing the Honda Groms soon for $3999 (not sure if that will be rideaway or not). In spite of inital impressions, I would ask the lady if she would give it a test ride and see what she thinks of it. There are plenty of aftermarket options to make the bike faster/louder if power is what you want and the seat height will fit her as stock. Those bikes look like crazy fun for city riding

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    Good for her! I had put some effort simply to talk my de facto out of scooters LOL
     
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    Yeah, we initially were looking at a scooter purely because of the seat height issue, but she wasn't terribly interested in them. We looked a cruisers and she's more of a 'sporty spice' gal, hence the Ninja. I think when it comes to getting around to upsizing (she wants to keep her Ninja 300 as well), she'll go for a Ninja 650 (with a lowering kit). A ZX6-R would be awesome, but it would not be practical for her!!
     
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    Yup - we're still on restricted licences, for now, but if we see something we like, we'll buy them and keep them in the garage until such time we can legally ride them.
     
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    A Honda Grom would maybe OK in Sydney where average speeds are low with traffic all day.
    Would be crap in Canberra, you would have a line a cars up your arse pretty much everywhere let alone the nightmare of riding out of town on it.
     
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    We actually find the Grom quite comfy even around Canberra. The power isn't too bad if you push it hard enough.
    The gear ratio is perfect for urban commuting, and the acceleration 0-80k is excellent for a 125, much more thrilling than most 125 scooters.
    FWIW, it handles Gungahlin Drive beautifully, which is signposted 90k. I would say any road that is 100k or 110k would indeed be a little (just a little) far stretched for the stock Grom, but if you fit a speed screen and an aftermarket exhaust on it, VOILA, the top speed jumps from 90ish to 110ish.

    After all, it IS a 125, so keeping the rpm high would always be key to such a bike.
     
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    Well if you're looking for suggestions I'd say have a squiz at Honda's VT750C/S modles
     
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    VT750S definitely looks the part... Very authentic and honest presentation of Japanese retro cruiser/bobber. I would recommend it as well.
     
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    Hmm...not a bad looking bike, although a little on cruiser style side. Might have to investigate that one. Thanks guys.
     
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    Im 5'4, and have had both the Honda VT750C and Kawasaki ER6F (now branded as Ninja 650) and found both to be a good ride height although I am slightly taller than your missus.

    Obviously with the cruiser, the seat height was perfectly fine however the maneuverability at slow speeds was a little struggle at first but one I got used to the weight it was fine.

    With the ER6F, I was able to have both my feet planted on the ground at a stop so I would assume with your missus she would most likely be flat footed with one foot on the peg.

    I now ride a ZX6r (the 09 for road and an 03 for track) and love it! :D I am on the balls of my feet when both legs are down but am flat footed when I have one foot on the peg. But time in the saddle is what gets you used to a bike, it literally just takes time. I've only been on those bike for just over a year and I can maneuver the bike pretty easily now... just ask @Gypsy ;)

    My suggestion would be not limiting yourself to one bike you think will work but just getting on a ton of bikes and test riding them its the only way you will know what is out there. Maybe even going as far as taking a notebook with you when you test ride, and once you get off each bike and write what you liked and didn't like about it.

    Anyway that's my 2 cents :)
     
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    Thanks for your 2 cents, Kate :1.gif:. The missus is 3" shorter than yourself, so she's in a position where every inch counts! It seems like she's just at the "tipping point" so-to-speak with seat heights etc, so we have to consider lowering kits/links etc...she's also got a pair of Lady Pilot boots which have help no end as they give some added 'reach' too. Not to worry though, we'll keep on keeping on with what we've got for the time being and just keep an eye out for whatever options we/she finds.
     
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    also a good custom seat may make the critical difference
     
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