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VTR250 or Ninja 250 For new learner 150cm short

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    Hi all,

    My wife just completed here Stay Upright Learners course on the weekend. Initially she wanted to get a Vespa, but after she did the course, it's going to be a motorcycle ;)
    The thing is she's only 150cm tall. She's gone out and sat on a both the vtr250 and ninja250 and is a bit more comfortable on a vtr250 as the seat is a bit slimmer.
    We're going to go out and test ride both on the weekend, but as a new rider I fear that she may not get the enough of a feel for the bikes on the short test ride.
    So I just wanted to get some thoughts from others who are preferably short about the two bikes. Perhaps something you only found out after you owned the bike for a while.

    The bike will predominantly used as a weekend fun machine and will not need to do commuting duties. I ride a GSX-R600 and we'll be out riding together.
     
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    Honda shadow 750 has a 658mm seat height
     
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    From my limited expereince, feeling comfortable when sitting on the bike is the most cruical thing for me. Making sure that the controls are easy to reach and ergonomic is also important.

    Being that your wife is relatively short (and therefore light) she may find that the bike's suspension handles differently over bumps then it feels for you.
     
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    Has anyone here had experience with an older cbr250rr. Would you recomend it or not recomend it. They have a very low seat height.
     
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    Define 'older'? Are we talking Aus delivered tricolour paintscheme of the late 90s, or single-disc R purporting to be an RR (1989), or somewhere inbetween?

    Grey import ones are a bit of a PITA if you want parts(1), they are getting on, and unless maintained, they can be dogs. I also don't fit on one any differently than I fit on a 250R (I'm bang on 6' though, so can't provide perspective from a shorter rider's viewpoint).

    IMHO, I'd be leaning towards the 250R. I have a ball on my gf's 250R, it's a great bike, and there is a reason they're selling like hotcakes. A VTR250 is perhaps the more logical choice for the shorter rider, but if she can at least fit on the 250R well and is comfortable enough on it, the 250R will be more rewarding on weekend rides than a VTR.

    If mainly was to be used for commuting, I'd have leant more to the slightly narrower VTR, but for fun, 250R wins hands down.
     
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    Im only 5'5" and weigh 50kg. My 250r is comfy as. flat foot without a problem! PLus you can get the 250r lowered a bit - i know of a couple of Yanks who have had theirs lowered (for less than $100) and theyre a helluva lot happier with them :)
     
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    Hmm, I was thinking of the real cbr250RR, but now you got me thinking.
    My wife said she would probably be a more comfortable on the vtr250 however she could probably get used to the width of the 250r. She really is a short girl!
     
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    Width? The seat isnt that wide.. If she's sitting right up against the tank im not really sure what "width" you're talking about... Unless its the fairings, but not sure how they'd effect being able to touvh the ground unless she's trying to put her feet down under the handlebars..
     
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    One of my mates who is really short bought a Ninja250 and had it lowered, when he sat on my he was on his toes keeping it upright, on his lowered version he can sit flat footed, he bought his new from cmc, but no reason they couldnt sort a used bike out.
     
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    I have a tri-coloured CBR250RR (not the grey import) and I love it. I'm only about 165cm and 55kg and the bike weighs a decent amount compared to me but is very low. I can easily reach the ground flat footed and the handlebars comfortably etc. Like Miz said you could get any bike lowered i suppose to fit her height needs.

    I think the cbr250rr's put you in a better riding position than the ninjas but that's just my personal preference. If you or your wife would like a ride on mine or to come and look let me know, happy to oblige!


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    Hi Jessa,

    Thanks for the offer. I think she may just take you up on that offer. I know she's a bit anxious going for a test ride from Fyshwick. Someone else from this forum has also kindly offered a ride on a vtr250.

    I love forums that work!:star
     
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    If you turn up to coffee, you will be able to see probably 3 shadows you can sit on if you are looking at cruiser seat heights.
     
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    Have you considered a 250cc cruiser? They have really low seat heights and are comparable in terms of mass.

    EDIT: See! Stu and I are on the same wavelength!
     
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    Yeah she's sat on cruisers and the seat heights are fine, but I'm not sure if she wants to go that way. I ride a current GSX-R600 and the bike was for her to go crusing with me... At learner legal speeds:D But my wife is a little speed demon. I think she's got her heart set on a cbr250rr, vtr250 or a ninja 250r. She's just on her toes with the two latter bikes, but being less than 50kgs we might need to have it lowered a tad or have the seat shaved down. Having said that, she did have her heart set on a vespa before she did the course. So maybe after she's had a ride of all three, she might change her mind again.

    What's Ironic is I just traded my cruiser in a couple of months ago for a sports bike. That's before riding was ever on the radar for her. :rolleyes:
     
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    No worries I live in Kaleen so there are a few quiet streets around!


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    Could I have a ride too?:p I've always wanted one but never found a good one:( lol.
     
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    Haha sure why not as long as u give it back :p

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    I personally disagree with the riding position thing re: it being in a better position on a CBR250RR. I've ridden both extensively, and I think it's not too different. Slightly less wrist ache if you hold yourself up with your arms on the 250R compared with the CBR250RR. They both encourage you to ride somewhat properly (read: forearms parallel with the road, up on balls of feet when properly riding). I've ridden a fair shittonne of bikes and I think it's splitting hairs to argue one puts you in a more proper position.

    Then again, you would probably say that my Monster puts you in an even less proper position; I just lean forwards, hold myself up with my abs of steel and keep my forearms parallel to the road. And my 91 gixxer is a lot less sportier or 'proper' than even a CBR250RR and that seemed to go moderately quickly with either me or Stace aboard.

    lappy21: All in all is going to be what suits your wife best... maybe 4 years ago I'd argue a CBR250RR would be fine, but for a learner sportsbike, the 250R is a pretty competent and significantly newer bike :).
     
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    Yeah, she's gone out and sat on all these bikes now. But it's been sh*ting down rain since yesterday so she hasn't had a chance to go for a ride on any of them yet. Hopefully she'll get to ride them before the weekends through. All I know is the money's there and she's trigger happy :)
     
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    Just saying personally I feel more comfortable on the CBR250RR. Of course I'm probly biased lol


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