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How anti-motorsport can the ACT govt get?

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    I wouldn't look too much into that, most of the schools being closed were at less than a 1/4 of capacity and there's another school only a suburb or two away. Hell, I think at Hall school it was 90% NSW students. A primary school for every suburb is a remnant of pre-self governance (ha!) times.

    And unfortunately, the dragway will never happen. The Summernats don't need a dragway, and there's nowhere for them to put it.
     
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    Bit of time on your hands?
     
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    I wonder how many people even noticed that there was no Rally of Canberra at all this year? We didn't even attract the Australian Rally Championship let alone the internationals. The people who ran it the last couple of years handed it back to the local clubs (at least one of them) and they decided it wasn't worth the financial risk to have it run here :rolleyes:.

    Rallying is a dying pursuit in the ACT, as if it wasn't bad before with the development of Molonglo they will lose "Greenhills" one of the favourite forests with the locals.

    I wonder what would have happened if we weren't totally decimated by fire in 2002...
     
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    Rallying is in a fair bit of a lull at the moment, compared to the highs of the late 90s imho. Which sucks - the RoC was about one of the only ways my old man visited me here.
     
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    Bring back the group B cars and watch everyone's interest return ;)
     
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    Yes, in these days of instant upload to youtube via mobile phone, the spectator and competitor deaths would get phenomenal coverage.
     
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    man it was quite fun reading this thread again... the good ole days before becoming a cripple... haha

    Sadly motorsport in australia always takes a back seat..... just look at the TV coverage of the V8 Supercars. AFL might be watched by more but ffs fix up the anti siphoning laws and put one or the other on the 7Two or have it moved back to TEN or OneHD.

    Race circuits also seem to be dying off cos someone thinks its far cheaper and better to build temporary street circuits every year.

    And no we're not spoilt here for motorsport..... even third world south africa shows LIVE uninterupted coverage of the F1, and not just the race, all practice sessions, qualifying, warmup etc. MotoGP, WSB etc all get shown in full too.....

    Personally what we need to raise the profile of motorsport is some controversy.... maybe get a couple of the guys from the V8's couple from the Aus Superbike Championship etc.. get them to do some coke with hookers, gangbang etc etc shit in a hotel corridor.... and then motorsports profile will be raised and more will get put back into it....

    This approach WILL work..... a friend of mine just confirmed with me...
     
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    I really find this very frustrating. Why do they do it? Imagine what they could do if spent the money on a permanent track?

    Lol I wonder if it would work? Perhaps we could employ this strategy to promote CR! :)
     
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    Street circuits are more attractive to the corporates, generally, can be promoted as a wider 'festival', and just plain generally bring in the crowds. Compare any of the EC V8 rounds (of which I attended a few) with the new Sydney street circuit. Street circuits are also easier to sell (surprisingly) to any residents: they're pretty much guaranteed to have significantly more limited days where they'll be inconvenienced than compared to the fuss that is raised around permanent circuits.

    ... Also, not forgetting the great race at Bathurst happens to be on a street circuit.
     
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    I was edited by an admin for saying that motorsport isn't that popular here. We're talking about the Rally that no one even knows is on anymore. Numbers show it. Continued decline shows it.

    Whoever edited that has really pissed me off. Reply and have your 2c worth about my posts all you want, don't fucking ninja edit when all I was doing was stating my opinion - one based on facts. Joking or not I don't give a fuck.
     
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    You mean today or like 6 years ago when this thread started?
     
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    About 6 years ago, its just that I only found it today thanks to Peanut's necromancy.

    Its the only time I'm aware of any of my posts being edited - and fair enough if I'm actually way out of line, but I was only voicing my opinion.
     
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    Probably to your average man in the street who might watch the odd race... this is who they're more interested in...
    To your full blown motorsport fan... he doesnt care about the geriatric music acts they get in and spend more time advertising than then race itself.... i cant wait to see the beachboys with their walking frames....

    I mean what better way to promote a series then by getting Pink to sing a 9 YEAR OLD song of hers... yup Pink is def the face of V8s..... they got that part right.

    Will Homebush still have the crowds in 5 years time when the novelty wears off???? maybe then it'll be comparable to EC currently.
    Perhaps they need to have more pushbike racing and drummerboys around the circuit all through the race meet weekend to ensure the numbers stay up.

    Bathurst it may be public road but its still considered a full race circuit. nowhere close to a street circuit such as Surfers, homebush etc
     
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    Why wouldn't it be?
    Take a look at the Clipsal 500 in Adelaide.
    It is over 10yrs old now and is still increasing in attendance numbers every year.
     
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    There are a lot more average people in the street to fleece money from. Numbers talk.

    I'm with him - their aim is to make the season finish off with something like Clipsal and signs aren't too bad. EC was actually a pretty crap place to watch the V8s. The flowing circuit also didn't really seem to suit big fat dinosaurs.
     
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    For sure, but what do you expect when it was designed with motorcycles in mind?

    Clipsal actually has a history to it... Homebush???? Its the same deal with Bathurst, its the same deal with Monaco, Macau etc.
    Just remember its all good and well to have these lovely awesome street circuits.... but what does it do for motorsport at club levels???
    V8 Supercars (no matter how hard they try) is NOT the be all end all of motorsport in this country.

    I dunno, if drivers are saying there needs to be change in the way things are run (esp after the last event) surely they themselves would know???

    Anyways... I guess time will tell :)
     
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    Most of the whinging I heard was around Courtney not getting a penalty, more Roland Dane trying to stir up the others cause Courtney's still ahead in the championship. The whinging was a lot louder after the end of race 2...

    Townsville seems to do alright as a street circuit, though tbh you could bulldoze a lot of Townsville and I'd be a happier man.

    Half of what gets me with 'club' level events are the sheer number of people rocking up with fairly expensive cars on trailers; Either bring back some run what you brung days with road-registered cars, or just admit that you're spending too much money and go open-wheel racing, like FVee or something, which can be done for cheaper than most people prep up a 180SX or whatever...
     
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    Whinging about Courtney aside, The current rulings are just plain stupid and seem to just suit the entertainment factor... if someone taps you from behind and you have a bit of loose bodywork as a result (Jamie Whincup @ Clipsal this year with the diffuser) you get the meatball flag and have to come in and fix it. And no I'm not a Holden, Ford, Whincup, Courtney or Winterbottom fan... to me the cars are all Falcadores. The only driver i actually look up to is Murph.... In Townsville, Crompo brought up an excellent point... Officials concerned with an invisible haze coming from Ingalls car, has to serve a drivethrough yet you can hose down the pitlane with water when topping up the reservoir for the brakes. Perhaps they should have a look how things are done in Europe, and a good example is the BTCC...

    Fairly expensive cars compared to what????? How expensive are those said cars to running a current V8 Supercar??? There is a reason why we dont see privateers in the series (and I'm not even talking about RECs right now)

    Theres nothing you can do if someone turns up with a car that has had a house mortgage spent on it... if the class rules say you can do this or that then why not. its only gonna cost you money. if you cant afford it, then you deal with it and do your best.... nobody ever said motorsport was cheap.. no matter how much i wish it was, it'll never change.

    Doesn't matter if you turn up in your bog stock road going commodore or decide to race in formula vee.... if there isnt a circuit to race on what are you meant to do? stare at it? make car noises while sitting stationary like ur 5yo again?
     
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