Upgrading

There is probably a thread on this somewhere but I didn't see it so here we go.

If I upgrade from a 250 inline 4 straight to a 1000 (07 R1 or the likes).. Am I going to explode?

Also

Is there a point to having a 1000 if I'm not doing alot of pillion work? From what I've gathered its basically about winning the pissing contest, but realistically an R6 is going to be faster and more nimble in the twisties anyway. Still a number of months till I can upgrade but it's something I devote a bit of time to thinking/pleasuring myself about

Cheers!

 

Yes, you will in fact explode. Sorry.

 

Some people like to win pissing contests

Something else to consider is the costs of each - cost to buy the motorcycle, run it, and insure it. As for exploding, I've heard many people say upgrading from 250 > 1000 will make you explode, but last time I went to a dealer to have a look (mentioned I was looking at upgrades from a 250) he led me straight over to the 1000 bikes. Although I suspect that is because they cost more

 

It's one of the most commonly asked, and most commonly flamed, questions for rider's reaching the end of their restrictions.

The short answer is that it's probably not the best idea, but it's also not the end of the world.

The longer answer is that having done something similar myself when I got off restrictions, I wouldn't actually suggest it as a great way to advance your riding skills. Ask yourself honestly why you want to go to a 1000cc bike so soon? If it's for pillioning then an 07 R1 is not exactly the best machine for the job anyway and you can very very easily get yourself into a lot of trouble very quickly on one. At best it will take you a while to get over the whole point and squirt between corners before you actually get comfortable going around them.

The better option is to test ride a bunch of bikes when your restrictions end and see what you feel comfortable on. Keep in mind that whatever you get doesn't have to be THE bike and it can just be a stepping stone for you to continue learning on until you are ready to move onto the next bike.

 

I went for the 600 and I have no regrets about not being on a litre bike but each individual is different.

If you're sensible when learning on a litre bike you won't have any trouble, get a bit carried away though... you might regret it. The same is true for a 600 though really.

Go for something with ABS if you can afford it. It's the only thing I wish my bike had.

 

You will certainly die if you go from a CBR250 to an R1. It's pretty much accepted....

Seriously just buy whatever floats ur boat. If u want an R1 buy one. If u want a cruiser go buy that. At road speeds the handling differences between the modern 1000s and 600s aren't worth bothering about. The 1000 will have significantly more power, which can be super fun. But don't think that makes the 600 a slouch.

Besides rear tyre wear I don't believe you'll find there is much difference in running costs. Both will cost plenty for a young inexperienced rider to insure.

 

Do you have your heart set on a sports bike? if not have you considered a naked experience
plenty of decent nakeds around, also the R1 is an overkill IMHO, great power, great looks, but how practical is it
in the real world, anyhow not being offensive to R1 owners, Ive ridden an R1, and its just explosive
I found it uncomfortable due to my height..
However take 1 for a ride and and see how it hangs...
There have been occasions when ive pissed at all sort of funny angles ... rare experience
but bloody funny ...:kicknutz!:

 

If you haven't exploded already you're doing it wrong. You might need the help of this dude, his shag pile carpet on the dash and the love suite in the back...

 

Anyhow talkin about the R1, last year I rode my friends lethal R1 from WP.
He had my bike on the trailer and one of the guys from ACT who totaled
his K13S...:sad:
THis was one helluva experience for me, having a play on this bike
and realising how powerful it really is, was astonishing.
You can see from the pics that Im all legs, being fairly tall I found it most uncomfortable
and my back was aching when I got back to the little big smoke.
Anyhow this was a moment in time that I enjoyed, coz its bloody powerfull
stuff...

 

i went from a TU250 to a Thundercat 600 then the Trimph Sprint - took me two years to get to the sprint and im still alive. Wouldnt say it was slow and steady as the cat is definitly quicker and more agile than the Sprint. But the Sprint is the right tipe of bike - thats wot u gott think about.

 

How tall are you? I'm about 6'4" and was thinking about something like a supersport at the end of the year. I'm concerned I won't fit though!

 

If you want to play around your height on lots of different bikes, this may site may help

 

Think about what sort of riding you want to do rather than fixating on a certain bike or style of bike and then trying to justify it.

Besides whatever you get will probably not be your last bike anyway.

 

Vid is about 6'3"-6'4" i'd say
i'm 6'1", and found my 04cbr1000r very comfortable. but i look a little like Vid on that r1, like "a grasshopper rooting a ladybug"

Although you would think a sportsbike would be uncomfortable for taller people, i find it quite good, you can sit almost upright with your arms straight when you want to, gives your back a break, and gives good visibility in town. and on long rides you just hang your feet off the pegs every now n again, works a treat. i've done a few 600km days on what is supposed to be a race-replica, and not been sore afterwards.

I've chatted to ya a couple times about this Georgy Boy, and you've already answered your own question in the original post. the only other thing i can say is test ride absolutely everything.

And listen to Sprinter, this is an excellent point. decide what riding you're going to be doing, that will dictate the bike you want/need. and you can always upgrade later to a faster/bigger/more expensive bike.

 

I'm not fixating on anything. Just considering my options.

 

Was just a suggestion not an editorial

 

i fully agree with sprinter ,the type of riding you do mostly will have a direct effect on your riding experience re the choice of bike. most sports litre 4s are quite civilised around town these days and 6s are also quite powerful so horses for courses i guess. also the one factor you may like to take into account is your weight. the main reason for my change from 749 to 1098 was down to my excessive manliness(105kg) and my occasional track day usage. jockeys will generally get enough rush out of 6s. either way its your coin.....................

 

What do you really have your heart set on? Do you have a bike option that makes you go "oooohhh"?

Everyone has an opinion. Buying a bike is such a personal thing. There are some very good points and opinions made on this thread. Take them on board, then throw in some wise words from Swedish philosophers Roxette and listen to your heart. To me, it sounds like you've already made up your mind



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